Tuesday, July 10, 2012

Class Blog: NYC Triangle Fire

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1.  Where was the Triangle Shirt Factory?
2.  What year(s) did it operate?
3.  What social cause was being played out at the center of the factory?
4.  What tragic event occurred there shortly after?
5.  What dramatic social reforms were implemented as a result of this tragedy?


The film depicts an epic clash between workers who fought for unionization and better working conditions, and bosses who fought equally hard to keep their factories free of unions and regulation.     While watching the film, make note of arguments on both sides of this debate.
6.       Then answer: Which of these arguments do you consider most persuasive?
7.        What caused public opinion to shift from favoring the factory owners' arguments to supporting workers' demands for workplace regulation?

8.  Did you see our original image?  What was the meaning behind it?  How did it differ from what you previously thought?

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  1. i agree with that statement

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  2. 1.The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in Nyc on 3-25-1911 was a industrial disaster in the history of the city of NY and resulted in the fourth highest loss of life from an industrial accident in U.S. history. :)

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  3. Hey my name Akeem :D :D

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    1. What is your thoughts on the lives that were lost though? Did you think the deaths were necessary in the end?

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    2. The lives were lost in vain but in the end it was worth it because the Triangle fire was an example that is the reason workers today have unions and dont work in unbearable conditions

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    3. i think that the fact that lives were lost is indeed saddening but if it never happened things might not have changed :/

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    4. but people shouldn't have to die to be recognized as human beings everyone should have been equal they used human rights as a easy getaway for compensation

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    2. All those bodies

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  5. i cant believe they treated the workers like they didnt matter and they turnt they back on them

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  6. i feel that's messed up they were pretty much forgotten by the people they worked for

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  7. they didn't even cover their caskets, they just let everyone walk by and see their dead bodies. That is so disrespectful..

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    1. i agree, the women were treated with no respect at all.

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  8. this woman's "intro" adressed what we were discussing earlier

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  10. The fact that people could think that the government turned their back on them shows how bad the situation was

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  11. aw they all look so poor and frightened

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  12. the factory was located in new york city

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  13. all they wanted was the "American Dream" to bad they could never really get it :(

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  14. I see they are talking about the quotes that we just had a discussion about.

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    1. word i heard someone say something about the big machine

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  15. Wonder if they would show something about the fire

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  16. The triangle shirt factory is located in new your city.

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  18. write the number to your answered questions please

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  19. i heard my quote the shirtwaist one

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  20. omg they worked for 13 hours everyday !!-_-

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    1. yeah. there was no such thing as a "weekend"....unions created them

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    2. idk how they did it cause i would never be able to do that....cause i need my sleep ! lol

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    3. Sometimes people have to prioritize. Do you want to sleep or a place to live and food to eat?
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    4. thats true i guess we all gotta make sacrifices

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  21. they was a huge disater that had took place the factory had cought on fires. it was one of the most dealiest events in history.

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  22. Are those two men the owners of the shirt waist factory ?

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    1. Yes they were. I forgot their names but they were once called "The Shirtwaist Kings."

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  23. Where do I answer the questions? o.o

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  24. I heard the quote about the shirtwaist

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  25. look out for our image people
    -eddelson

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  26. i say what i see about this triangle fire is that its a very huge tragedy that happened.But out of this tragedy there was some positive things that came out of the tragedy its self.One the fire was a pure symbol that in the time of the tragedy there were lacking a huge thing . That we all need in a working enviornment this of course is safety regulations that all factories at that time lacked tremendously.Pushing on there is was a bigger problem that since that in the time we were so up in coming in big industry that we sent children to do jobs. Most kids at that age were maybe most deserve an education . But know they met only nickels and dimes and a iron machine.With this being said we have fixed that .Children are now mandated to go to school and finish it .Thats one of the amazing things that came out of The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory.

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  27. the triangle factory is known to be the fourth highest loss of life from an industrial accident in U.S. history.

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  28. it looks really crowded and uncomfortable in there sheesh

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  29. People came to america to have better lifes or so they thought, but then to come and most likely be be in worse conditions then they were in before.

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  30. dam they just wanted to be equal

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  31. i used that line for the quotation "sometime you work at a big machine and it's not working right. One of the needles skips and you get blamed for mistakes."

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  32. The women went on strike for shorter hours and better pay, answered the question most of us had to why they were so angry.

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  33. i think id go crazy if i worked there, doing the same thing Every Single Day and making things i know i could never have for myself, and my voice never heard, nope couldnt do it

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  34. in all honesty with out incidents like the triangle fire we would not have the laws put in place today to protect workers and women. i capitalism it takes people dying to have change with out unfair factory conditions we wouldn't have human rights laws which should be obvious no one man should be put over another no matter the amount of money they have in there pockets

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    1. I agree, times have changed a lot.. but for the better.

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  35. did u know - unions created what we today consider: the "weekend"

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    1. im glad they created that cause most of us wouldnt survive wat they been threw

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  36. What these women did created a better work environment for us today

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  37. We all were only putting ourselves in the workers' shoes but never the owners. The owners were losing money because of other comapanies and couldn't keep up their factory running smoothly as it once did.

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  38. Im guessing all the quotes came from the film

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  39. the triangle shirt factory was located in new york city

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  40. honestly there is a thin line between whats going on here and slavery

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    1. I agree, they are working the woman with no break and no mistakes for 13 hours, very much similar to slavery.

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    2. the only "thin line" is that they get a LITTLE money out of it.

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  41. Also out of the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory Tragedy there was now labor laws and unions were formed out of all this and this will store equality amongst working men and women

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  42. hard to believe most of the world still is subject to these conditions!!!
    -eddelson

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  43. 3000 stitches a min with no mistakes ? he's buggin

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  44. seems danger to work with those machine

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  45. those needles look mad dangerous! imagine if that went through your fingerrrr.

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  46. The Factory was located in New York and on March 25 1911 the dire incident happened.

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  47. wow ! i herd the quote about the needle getting caught in her finger but thats crazy it turned out to be a lil girl that got her finger caught

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  48. They could not even use the bathroom. They did not really get a break and they work so hard.

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  49. That must be a HORRIBLE feeling, to be watched while you work.. no breaks, not even for an injury! or you loose your pay for the week? which is food for your family... very stressful.

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  50. Its crazy how they could not stop working to use the bathroom.

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  51. It seemed like they were just working the woman, making them faster and make them produce more products. Also they could not do anything that did not include their job. I think it's bad that if they messed up one time, they would dock their day.

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    1. I agree, it's like their lifes revolved around the factory.

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  52. no bandaid for the cuts? -_- no lollipop from the doc?, cole world! the cut could get infected ...

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    1. no neosporin back in the days too.=/ Pretty damn harsh back in the day. I feel hella lucky.

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    2. they were clearly willing for respect

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  53. just saw our image!!!!!!!!
    -eddelson

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  54. dam these woman were treat as if they where in jail

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  55. Why would you block the only other exit -___-

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  56. 1. The triangle shirt factory was located in New York City

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  57. with all the stress put on them they still expected to do a perfect job? and if they didn't they wouldn't get paid? that's just wrong

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  58. 1. The factory was located in NYC.

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  59. 1. The factory was located in New York City
    2.1911

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  60. i noticed the quotes are being mentioned in the film.

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    1. i didn't even notice that. :o

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  61. 1) the factory was located in new york city

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  62. the factory work was hard but 3000 in a min

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  63. anyone see our image??????
    -eddelson

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    1. Oh the door knob? Yea I saw that to o.o

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    2. it must be something really deep unless its right on the surface but i might be looking to hard into the picture

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  64. Back then working conditions was so unsafe. Many people get hurt or imjured during the job but continue to work like nothings really wrong. just because they do that doesnt make it right to sit back and continue to watch people get injured or possible lose there life. Make a change, make working safe

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  65. http://newdeal.feri.org/library/d_4m.htm


    here is a link to the gallery of the triangle factory very excruciating ... viewer discretion is advised

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  66. 2. It operated in 1909 - 1911

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  67. 2)it operated in 1909-1911

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  68. Its america, and this is the opportunity that they got? They risked there life for the factory.

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  69. 1) The triangle factory was in the middle of new york city

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  70. the original image we presented in class was shown in the film....what does it represent?

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    1. Was it the exit door? that they would block out?

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  71. this film gives you an insight of the film and shows what abomination of the work force was being distributed . The owners didnt care as long as you mad money your expendable . There were no minimum wage laws the government had no say .But as you see extravagant era and that meant face pace working men and women . But people had no idea that in this era there was a darker side of the story . This what happens when people are treated bad of course they will stand up and march against the iron man of greed

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  72. 2) The factory operated from 1909 to 1911.

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  73. This the the "Land of Opportunity" lawl

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  74. i dont understand number 3 any help?????

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    1. Well it is basically asking what did the workers do in result of their conditions? (examples: Unions, Lectures or Strikes)

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    2. It just answered the question BTW! The workers joined eachother for an union meeting.

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  75. I know if I got a needle in my hand I would of dipped ! But too bad they didn't have that priviledge. They had to provide for their families.

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    1. but true, they needed to get over the fact of their wound and look at the brighter side that they provide family with what the get. But the brighter side was still not bright. feel me?

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  76. 1.The triangle shirt factory was in NYC.
    2.The triangle shirt factory operated in 1909-1911.

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  77. 1)the Triangle factory was located in new york city

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  78. 2.) This operated from 1909 to 1911.

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  79. nobodies even watchin the movie though, everybody is on this -_- but they violated the workers in those times.

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  80. I think that the woman would be right to try and force the owners to do the right thing.

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    1. The women know if they did they would of lost there jobs, and they would of been replaced in a matter of hours, then they wouldn't be able to provide for their family, so they had to deal with all the pain and suffering.

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  81. 1. Happened in New York.
    2. The factory operated from 1909-1911.

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  82. 1)the shirtwaist factory was located in manhattan in a ten story building but they owned the top three

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  83. i really dont understand number 3.. -_-

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  84. 2) The factory operated from 1909 until 1911.

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  85. 8. it changed the image in my head cause i give them so much respect because now i see how hard us womens had it nd how mean we got treated and honestly i wouldnt have been able to do what they did cause if a needle went threw my finger i would CRY!!

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  86. 2) The factory operated from 1909-1911

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  87. the American dream didnt turn out to be such a dream..

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  88. I don't know what it represents but I will take a shot at it. It represents the captivity of the workers there and the cracked door shows the little leway they had.You can see that the doorknob is dusty and rusty which means that it wasn't used in frequently. Basically it just means that they were treated like animals and slaves

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  89. 2) the shirtwaist factory operated from the beggining of the 1900's

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  90. 1)the triangle shirt facory was in new york.

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  91. uhm im gunna guess that number 3 is asking what happened in the center of the factory? like what were they treated like or whatever?

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    1. oh and probably like what lead up to the fire.. in the center of the factory. this is for question number 3.

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  92. 6) i think what caused the public to shift from supporting the factory owners to supporting the workers because there recognizing what there going through as far as working conditions.

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    2. Your so copying and pasting this information xD sus

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    3. swing that wikipedia link bro

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    4. You meant 4 Bro Bro !

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    5. Are you kidding me? You didn't just plagiarize, did you? omg you did!
      -eddelson

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    6. charone get of me ur supposed to put in ur own words duhhhhh but it was to help and yea this is number 4

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    7. shame shame shame

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    8. donovan didn't do a very smart thang. Should've made it in your own words bro.

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  94. 1)Where was the Triangle Shirt Factory? In the center of New York City.

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  95. 4. there was a tragic fire, many people died and it was the deadliest industrial fire in the history of new york!

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  96. finally, talk of rebellion, it's about time

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  97. most of the vocabulary terms we learned are mentioned and connected to the quotes and flim

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  98. 2)The triangle shirt factory operated in 1909-1911

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  99. it's pretty sad that they moved here for the freedom and how they think people will have the same rights and stuff but in reality is totally different. they work for long hours and get low pay plus they don't get treat nicely but poorly.
    If i was there during that time i would join the strike with them.

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    1. I agree with you. It is very different than they thought it would be. They were not happy and it was very dissapointing to them.

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  100. 4) the shirtwaist fire occured afterwards

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  101. How long did they go on strike for?

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  102. why didn't they just sell the building instead of having all that happen. I mean they were loosing customers they just continued to be greedy

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    1. you too!!!!!! stop copying and pasting. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

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  104. 3)im not to sure about #3 but i assume that its talking about the conditions and what lead up to the fire

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  105. 3. What social cause was being played out at the center of the factory? There were no equal rights among workers and the boss

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  106. 4) Your either talking about the factory fire or the strikes that occured. If so does both answers count?

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  107. 4) the shirtwaist fire took over a thousand lives. the shirtwaist factory fire was the second deadliest event that happened in NYC

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  108. 3)The social cause that was being played out was the factory worker’s going on strike trying to get labor unions. (I think )

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  109. and all they wanted was to be equal, they couldnt just give them that?

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  110. Its unfair that everyone gave the factory workers such a hard time knowing that they themselves wouldnt like to be in such a bad condition

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  111. 4.On March 26, 1911, the New York Times reported on a disastrous fire in a Manhattan building. According to the article, the previous day, a fire had broken out in the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory in the Asch Building located near Washington Square in Manhattan. Although the building had been declared fireproof, contents within the buildings 8th, 9th, and 10th floors ignited the deadly blaze just moments before quitting time. The fire caused panic to erupt. One of the two elevators was out of service, the fire escape was rusty to the point of collapse, and the stairwell was locked in order to keep the workers inside the factory until the end of the work day. One hundred forty one men and women died either in the fire or by jumping from windows, which were 100 feet above the sidewalk. Of the dead, approximately one hundred twenty five were women who immigrated to the United States in search of a better life. They were young and, although paid poorly, often the bread winners of their families.

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  112. 3) I think, not sure if i understand the question. But it was when the women went on strike.. or as one of the women said an "uprising" for shorter hours and better pay. 10,000 women marched across city hall, they continued to do this day after day.

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  113. the workers were very persistent even though they didnt get far, but they continued to fight to get unions.

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